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		<title>By: bbPress y el SEO &#124; Ayuda WordPress</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2358</link>
		<dc:creator>bbPress y el SEO &#124; Ayuda WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] y concreto el post de Ryan Hellyer sobre las virtudes de bbPress al respecto del SEO, que describo a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chip Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2321</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan:

I have pingbacks enabled on my bbPress install.  This is a comment to test bi-directional pings, using this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chipbennett.net/forum/topic/pingback-test-topic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pingback Test Topic&lt;/a&gt; thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan:</p>
<p>I have pingbacks enabled on my bbPress install.  This is a comment to test bi-directional pings, using this <a href="http://www.chipbennett.net/forum/topic/pingback-test-topic" rel="nofollow">Pingback Test Topic</a> thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2310</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2305&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Conorp&lt;/a&gt; - Yeah, I&#039;m wondering the same thing! It&#039;s possible they have it turned off on bbPress.org I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2305" rel="nofollow">Conorp</a> &#8211; Yeah, I&#8217;m wondering the same thing! It&#8217;s possible they have it turned off on bbPress.org I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Conorp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conorp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2296&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ryan&lt;/a&gt; -

Wheres that trackback that should have been posted here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2296" rel="nofollow">Ryan</a> -</p>
<p>Wheres that trackback that should have been posted here?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kahoun</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kahoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2296&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ryan&lt;/a&gt; - if you meant indirect influences on SEO, than you&#039;re undoubtably right. I agree these features are worthy for user&#039;s experience, for the success of the forum or for myriads of other aspects, but since you addressed the article on SEO benefits, I needed some explanation. Now I think I got it - your understanding of SEO is just wider than mine. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2296" rel="nofollow">Ryan</a> &#8211; if you meant indirect influences on SEO, than you&#8217;re undoubtably right. I agree these features are worthy for user&#8217;s experience, for the success of the forum or for myriads of other aspects, but since you addressed the article on SEO benefits, I needed some explanation. Now I think I got it &#8211; your understanding of SEO is just wider than mine. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Kahoun&lt;/a&gt; - I never said anything about how much these SEO benefits are worth, just that they are beneficial features which other forum softwares don&#039;t have.

Whether a backlink is nofollow or not is irrelevant to whether it is beneficial to have SEO wise or not. Non nofollow links are better, but nofollow links still have SEO benefits as it exposes your site to more people and hence are more likely to be linked to in the future. It&#039;s an indirect SEO benefit.

Most other forum software do not include good on page SEO optomisation in their default theme, bbPress does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2289" rel="nofollow">Peter Kahoun</a> &#8211; I never said anything about how much these SEO benefits are worth, just that they are beneficial features which other forum softwares don&#8217;t have.</p>
<p>Whether a backlink is nofollow or not is irrelevant to whether it is beneficial to have SEO wise or not. Non nofollow links are better, but nofollow links still have SEO benefits as it exposes your site to more people and hence are more likely to be linked to in the future. It&#8217;s an indirect SEO benefit.</p>
<p>Most other forum software do not include good on page SEO optomisation in their default theme, bbPress does.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kahoun</title>
		<link>http://www.wptavern.com/why-bbpress-is-good-for-seo#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kahoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2285&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ryan&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;blockquote&gt;hat makes any other forum software as good as bbPress?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing, they are already about the same... (We&#039;re speaking about on-page SEO qualities.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sending trackbacks help as it automatically posts links to the forum on other sites.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...expecting they&#039;re using bbPress (or WP blog) and they didn&#039;t disable the feature. Other side most likely uses rel=nofollow on these links so their benefit for our ranks is... is?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Acquiring evidence of the effects of SEO is difficult and I doubt anyone has tried to quantify the difference...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, I form my opinions by opinions of SEO experts, that is the kind of evidence I&#039;d like to see.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the SEO benefits of trackbacks, semantic HTML and pretty permalinks is well known&lt;/blockquote&gt;
IMO, they might be well believed by WP community, but I wouldn&#039;t say that they are well known and I would say they are overrated. About the keywords in URL, well, these probably matter. But how much? http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2285" rel="nofollow">Ryan</a> &#8211;<br />
<blockquote>hat makes any other forum software as good as bbPress?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing, they are already about the same&#8230; (We&#8217;re speaking about on-page SEO qualities.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Sending trackbacks help as it automatically posts links to the forum on other sites.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;expecting they&#8217;re using bbPress (or WP blog) and they didn&#8217;t disable the feature. Other side most likely uses rel=nofollow on these links so their benefit for our ranks is&#8230; is?</p>
<blockquote><p>Acquiring evidence of the effects of SEO is difficult and I doubt anyone has tried to quantify the difference&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, I form my opinions by opinions of SEO experts, that is the kind of evidence I&#8217;d like to see.</p>
<blockquote><p>the SEO benefits of trackbacks, semantic HTML and pretty permalinks is well known</p></blockquote>
<p>IMO, they might be well believed by WP community, but I wouldn&#8217;t say that they are well known and I would say they are overrated. About the keywords in URL, well, these probably matter. But how much? <a href="http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors" rel="nofollow">http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors</a></p>
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		<title>By: John (Human3rror)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John (Human3rror)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bbpress is the bomb. i use it for my forums and it&#039;s money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bbpress is the bomb. i use it for my forums and it&#8217;s money!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2284&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Kahoun&lt;/a&gt; - Reversing the question. What makes any other forum software as good as bbPress? I can&#039;t think of anything they do to match it.

Sending trackbacks help as it automatically posts links to the forum on other sites. It&#039;s like having a little automated spammer running around posting on random blogs, except those blogs are willingly allowing it since they&#039;re legit trackbacks.

Acquiring evidence of the effects of SEO is difficult and I doubt anyone has tried to quantify the difference between bbPress and any other forum softwares. However the SEO benefits of trackbacks, semantic HTML and pretty permalinks is well known so it seems reasonable to assume that bbPress will perform better than other software since it has these extra features available to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2284" rel="nofollow">Peter Kahoun</a> &#8211; Reversing the question. What makes any other forum software as good as bbPress? I can&#8217;t think of anything they do to match it.</p>
<p>Sending trackbacks help as it automatically posts links to the forum on other sites. It&#8217;s like having a little automated spammer running around posting on random blogs, except those blogs are willingly allowing it since they&#8217;re legit trackbacks.</p>
<p>Acquiring evidence of the effects of SEO is difficult and I doubt anyone has tried to quantify the difference between bbPress and any other forum softwares. However the SEO benefits of trackbacks, semantic HTML and pretty permalinks is well known so it seems reasonable to assume that bbPress will perform better than other software since it has these extra features available to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kahoun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kahoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here is my summary: What makes a bbPress forum better in eyes of search engine?
- proper use of headings
- more semantic HTML, no layout-tables
- pretty permalinks
- trackbacks (sending or receiving or both? how do they help?)

Is there something more? And is there any evidence about the impact of points 2, 3, 4 on page rating?

Don&#039;t get me wrong, just trying to have clear knowledge. I&#039;m a user of bbPress too and like it, but I have doubts about being it a significantly better platform for SE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here is my summary: What makes a bbPress forum better in eyes of search engine?<br />
- proper use of headings<br />
- more semantic HTML, no layout-tables<br />
- pretty permalinks<br />
- trackbacks (sending or receiving or both? how do they help?)</p>
<p>Is there something more? And is there any evidence about the impact of points 2, 3, 4 on page rating?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, just trying to have clear knowledge. I&#8217;m a user of bbPress too and like it, but I have doubts about being it a significantly better platform for SE.</p>
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